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Whats_something_you_used_RC-514568.wav,"Speaker 2: Hi, how are you again?
Speaker 1: Hey.
Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good.
Speaker 1: What about you?
Speaker 2: I'm okay.
Speaker 2: I was working on my other project.
Speaker 2: On a wedding, and now I saw people were on, so I'm like, oh, I should try.
Speaker 2: I keep, you know, it's like I keep going back and forth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they removed the testing, I guess, because it kept kicking people out, right?
Speaker 2: Oh, the other project?
Speaker 2: The one that wasn't paid?
Speaker 1: No, no, this one.
Speaker 2: Oh, they...
Speaker 1: Like, you entered right away or did you have to go through a test?
Speaker 2: Oh, I entered right away.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I did the test once, yeah, and I got in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, last time, yeah, I did it like three times, so...
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess this is why they removed it now.
Speaker 1: Well, I can hear you alright, there is nothing wrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're fine, you're good.
Speaker 1: What about me?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, and they were almost at a topic, so it's like, oh, we gotta like...
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Gotta rush this.
Speaker 1: I'm on for, I guess, the next couple of hours.
Speaker 1: I've got nothing better to do.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's good.
Speaker 2: I have two other jobs I have to do, but I want to try to get some money before Friday.
Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: That's the way it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand.
Speaker 2: Because my other, yeah, the other job I work, I won't get paid until next Friday, so it's like...
Speaker 2: And one of them I was paid for last year, so it's my issue.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's a lot.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: It's a lot.
Speaker 2: So that is my...
Speaker 1: Hopefully, hopefully the money is gonna come fast.
Speaker 2: That's why I need other jobs.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: What random object are you really attracted to?
Speaker 1: You can, yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think.
Speaker 2: Oh, what's something you used to think was sophisticated as a kid?
Speaker 1: Caviar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2: Okay, I could do that one.
Speaker 1: But it's the worst thing ever.
Speaker 2: My neighbors had a waterbed.
Speaker 2: And I thought that was fancy.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2: So funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2: So funny.
Speaker 1: Would you, yeah, would you like to start or would you like me to start?
Speaker 2: All right, we'll do...
Speaker 2: I'll start it, because it's funny.
Speaker 2: It's a waterbed.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, sure.
Speaker 2: Hi, how are you?
Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 2: Oh, you know, just working on lots of different things and ruminating about the 80s.
Speaker 1: What about you?
Speaker 1: How was your day?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was thinking about the 80s when I grew up.
Speaker 2: But I was like, you know, when I was a little kid, my neighbor had a waterbed.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: And I thought that was like the ultimate like adult, like sophisticated thing that could be in their house, was this waterbed.
Speaker 1: Ooh.
Speaker 1: Totally.
Speaker 2: And we used to get on it.
Speaker 2: I could still feel the water underneath my body.
Speaker 2: And it's so weird what happened to waterbeds.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, that was fancy stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like, were they always breaking?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe I guess we grew up and figured out it's not the best thing for our backs.
Speaker 2: Probably.
Speaker 1: Maybe.
Speaker 2: Probably.
Speaker 2: Probably too many kids were jumping on it too and breaking it like us little kids like rolling around the waterbed.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do they, do they burst easily though?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't remember.
Speaker 2: I don't remember what the like what it was made of.
Speaker 2: I just remember the feeling of being on it and kind of like it was like just this jiggly stuff underneath you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was so cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really was.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: It was really fun.
Speaker 2: I get.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: You know, what I used to think is so sophisticated as a kid was like caviar.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I used to think it's like this really fancy thing.
Speaker 1: And I, once I tasted it, it's not nice.
Speaker 1: You know, like the black caviar.
Speaker 2: I've never had it.
Speaker 2: I don't like I don't like fish.
Speaker 1: I don't like it.
Speaker 2: So like the thought of eating fish eggs, I'm like, no, thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, no, no.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But the row.
Speaker 1: The, the, the robe though.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: It's, it's not the like.
Speaker 2: I still don't even know what caviar is.
Speaker 2: I still see people eating it and enjoying it.
Speaker 2: I mean, they put a lot of stuff on it and they like the texture.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But.
Speaker 1: I don't know why.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know how.
Speaker 2: Hmm.
Speaker 1: Like it's probably like one of the worst things I've eaten in my life.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 2: And it costs like a hundred dollars, like a little tin of it or something like that, even probably even more.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think it was because probably rich people, that's what they ordered at a restaurant on TV or something.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Where did we hear about that?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I, I'm convinced that this is some sort of mass hysteria.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, mass delusion.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So delicious.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 1: Like everyone, everyone is so convinced because it's so expensive.
Speaker 1: It has to be good that they gaslight themselves into liking it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh, no, I really like this disgusting slimy food.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like, oh,
Speaker 1: I honestly, yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Looks slimy to me.
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel that way about all like like seafood stuff.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Like lobster and all that.
Speaker 2: I just find it kind of gross.
Speaker 2: I can't look at it.
Speaker 2: Oysters.
Speaker 2: I don't like shrimp.
Speaker 1: Shrimp, like crab.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: A lot of people, every time I buy, I've had shrimp accidentally.
Speaker 2: And just the biting into it, I remember just that.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: Oh, like I do not want this.
Speaker 2: This is like this is not chicken.
Speaker 1: Oh, no.
Speaker 2: I think I ordered a chicken quesadilla.
Speaker 2: My friend ordered the shrimp one and like they gave the shrimp one to me accidentally.
Speaker 2: And I remember taking a bite and I was like, not chicken.
Speaker 2: I do not like the texture, but I know people like it.
Speaker 1: Uh, yeah.
Speaker 1: It throws you off, I guess.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, I, I honestly, I, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I do like it, like crab, shrimp, you know, like squid.
Speaker 1: But fish itself, I'm not a big fan.
Speaker 1: Like it's not something I crave, you know, like not something I'm going to go out of my way to look for as a meal.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But if it comes, it's okay.
Speaker 1: Like I'll, I'll deal with it.
Speaker 2: The wedding I'm editing right now, the bride, I guess, eats salmon like three times a week or something like that.
Speaker 1: Sort of.
Speaker 2: That's a lot of salmon.
Speaker 1: Oh my God.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I eat chicken like every day, but eating salmon every like almost every day seems a lot to me.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Sort of.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you know, the really expensive salmon, like, like the bluefin.
Speaker 1: No, that's tuna.
Speaker 1: Is it tuna or salmon?
Speaker 1: No, I guess salmon.
Speaker 1: I can't remember.
Speaker 1: There is a fish.
Speaker 1: Like you're not supposed to eat a lot of it because it has mercury in it.
Speaker 2: Mm.
Speaker 1: I don't remember what is it.
Speaker 1: Is it the tuna, the bluefin tuna, I guess?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe, yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't really pay attention too much about fish since I'm not going to eat it anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, OK.
Speaker 2: I don't care.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Understandable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know too many fish facts in terms of eating it.
Speaker 1: Understandable.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, what I thought was really fancy as well, you know, like ballerinas and figure skating and gymnastics, right?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It looks so pretty.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I watched so much figure skating and gymnastics as a kid.
Speaker 1: Did it?
Speaker 2: And yeah, reading and what's interesting, like the Carrie, I mean, the.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: What's her name?
Speaker 2: It's like Tonya Harding and.
Speaker 2: Tom and Tom Carrie.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember.
Speaker 2: Oh, Nancy, Nancy Kerrigan.
Speaker 1: Here?
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: I was close.
Speaker 2: I was close.
Speaker 2: I was getting there.
Speaker 1: It's.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2: Tonya Harding, Nancy Kerrigan.
Speaker 2: So Nancy was like the princessy, like rich, also sophisticated skater where Tonya was like the lower class kind of scrappy, trashy skater.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: Ooh.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, so they had that dichotomy of like two different worlds of, you know, one rich, one poor.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: And.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were partners.
Speaker 2: But.
Speaker 2: No, they were competitors.
Speaker 2: They were fierce competitors.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: And then Tonya's husband hired someone to hit Nancy in the knee.
Speaker 1: Oh, interesting.
Speaker 2: Remember that whole thing?
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, I remember it now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a movie called Tonya.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was awful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so sad.
Speaker 2: So she would get hurt and not like compete at the Olympics and that way Tonya could win.
Speaker 2: So, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, no, they got divorced.
Speaker 1: Did she stay with the husband or did she leave him?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got divorced.
Speaker 1: I can't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's such a horrible thing to do, right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, totally crazy.
Speaker 2: I remember that moment where on the news seeing her and she's like, oh, my knee.
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 2: And I was like, and I was a Nancy Kerrigan fan.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But yeah, she had that very sophisticated quality.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: She used to wear Vera Wang.
Speaker 2: Vera Wang.
Speaker 2: And then.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Dance costumes.
Speaker 2: I mean, like, yeah, her figure skating costumes were made by Vera Wang.
Speaker 1: Suit.
Speaker 2: So, you know, that probably cost money.
Speaker 1: Oh my God, that's so pretty.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of money.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 2: I used to watch the Yes to the Dress and I always thought that was super sophisticated.
Speaker 1: A lot, a lot of money.
Speaker 2: Like some of those dresses like are so expensive, like ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it's like, wow, how can you spend so much on a dress?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I used to watch it too.
Speaker 1: And honestly, it boggled my mind, right?
Speaker 1: Paying that much money.
Speaker 1: There were pretty like expensive dresses there, right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like some of them, there's one designer that was like an in-house designer and her dresses were like, yeah, like twelve thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh my God.
Speaker 2: Or like, you know, they would be like, oh, what's your budget?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And they're like, oh, eight thousand to ten thousand.
Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 2: OK.
Speaker 1: What happened to the 1K or 2K?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like, how did we get there?
Speaker 2: You got to go to the discount bridal shop for that.
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And some choices, you know, they were so expensive and so bad at the same time.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like sometimes.
Speaker 1: Like, no.
Speaker 1: Like, no.
Speaker 1: But anyhow.
Speaker 1: I certainly remember that.
Speaker 1: Do you watch it?
Speaker 2: No, I don't really have time to watch it anymore.
Speaker 1: Do you still watch it?
Speaker 1: Or no?
Speaker 2: Like I'm watching so many things I don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't watch it.
Speaker 2: But I am watching this.
Speaker 2: I watch 90 Day Fiancé.
Speaker 2: I love that show and.
Speaker 1: Ah, I haven't.
Speaker 1: Is it any good?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's insane.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's a little wild.
Speaker 2: It has like multiple.
Speaker 2: It's like this is their 12th season and then they also have all these spinoffs.
Speaker 2: But this I'm watching the original like season, the original kind, the not the spinoff, the 90 Day Fiancé.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 2: So it's like people that get engaged to someone they met in a different country and then the person's coming over to the US and they have 90 days to get married.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I mean, because that's for for the visa, they have 90 days.
Speaker 1: That, that.
Speaker 2: You know, it's about the K-1 visa.
Speaker 2: And yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So so you just watch them like get to that point and see if they get married or not or if they break up before they get married.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And one of the women on it, she's she met a guy in the Dominican Republic and like a guy who worked in a hotel.
Speaker 1: Fascinating.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: This is a very common thing.
Speaker 2: Dominicans that work for the hotel and meeting white women, older white women, and then ending up dating, you know, coming to the US.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So this woman, though, is the CEO of Kleinfeld.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Like she works there.
Speaker 2: She's like on the show all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh my God.
Speaker 2: But I think she quit now or she doesn't work there anymore.
Speaker 2: But they shot some of her stuff like when we got introduced to her as a character, they shot it at Kleinfeld and she's, you know, it's really fun.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: Very funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like it.
Speaker 1: I should, I don't watch nearly enough reality TV.
Speaker 2: I watch a lot.
Speaker 1: I swear.
Speaker 2: I watch this and I watch a lot of dating shows.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: This this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Before the 90 days is like they're meeting someone that they never met before.
Speaker 2: Maybe they've probably been like talking online and they get to.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: So now they're meeting for the first time.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: The person goes to their country to meet them and see if there's potential.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good one, too.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 2: Then there's the other way where the American moves to the foreign country to live in order to be together or they just prefer to live in the other country.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 1: Oh, why?
Speaker 2: So that's another one.
Speaker 1: Is it successful?
Speaker 2: Sometimes I mean, most of the couples on the original 90 day fiance do get married.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: I don't know if there was any there's a few people that maybe didn't make it to the altar before 90 days, but most people do.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: Some of them are getting divorced now.
Speaker 2: There's a bunch of divorce announcements.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: That's sweet.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, they split up.
Speaker 1: Expected.
Speaker 1: Expected.
Speaker 2: And then the other way, not a lot of actually before the 90 days.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not a lot of success on that.
Speaker 2: A lot of them don't break up.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: But yes, it's interesting.
Speaker 2: I mean, the point of the show at first was like, yeah, can you see if someone could be a potential partner after only living with them for three months?
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's actually a good point, right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe that they should make the system longer, you know, like six months and to see and you know how much people give up to do this.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: I honestly, there is like this saying that you never truly know a person until you live with them, right?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like all of their weird and bad habits.
Speaker 1: And like small habits, like small odd habits can be like in the future, it can be a room for resentment.
Speaker 1: Isn't it?
Speaker 1: Like something that you think is cute, like the first couple of months, but after that it's annoying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: It's like annoying things or I think some of the other problems were mostly family, a lot of family issues like is this person going to get along with your family, accept them?
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of age gaps.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So yeah, just and just the yeah, the other person coming to the US and just trying to fit into the US money is always money problems.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm all for.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it's very interesting.
Speaker 1: Of course.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1: I'm all for successful age gaps though.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 1: If they can make it work, why not?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 1: It's sweet somehow.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Odd but sweet.
Speaker 1: At the same time, it's a combination of things.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh my.
Speaker 1: No, I need to invest in reality TV.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's good.
Speaker 1: That sounds entertaining, honestly.
Speaker 2: It's not like TLC, but I watched it on HBO Max.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
Speaker 1: I've got both.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can go down a long rabbit hole for them.
Speaker 1: I can work this out.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: Oh my God.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know how I'm going to spend the next week.
Speaker 2: Okay, start season one is so different than season 12.
Speaker 1: Oh my.
Speaker 2: So it really started out as such a pure show and then it became increasingly downhill but more entertaining.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: When downhill.
Speaker 2: It started out as like a real like this is going to be a documentary to you.
Speaker 2: This is a trashy reality show with drama.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, definitely.
Speaker 1: Well, it was really nice catching up with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: We should talk again soon, right?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll let you know what I think.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Like maybe give me a couple of days maybe.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 2: Talk to you later.
Speaker 2: Bye bye.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 1: Bye.
Speaker 1: Bye.",What's something you used to think was sophisticated as a kid?,1056,2,female / female,25-34 / 45+,100%
Whats_the_funniest_thing_RC-550548.wav,"Speaker 2: Oh my god!
Speaker 1: Hello, sorry for the wait.
Speaker 1: My dog was being a little monster.
Speaker 1: Oh, he just likes to, he just wanted some attention.
Speaker 1: So but
Speaker 1: I'm ready now.
Speaker 2: Okay, there are six topics left as I see here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, same here.
Speaker 1: Um,
Speaker 2: What's the moment you realized someone was way more
Speaker 2: chaotic?
Speaker 2: Well, maybe what's the funniest thing someone has ever assumed about you?
Speaker 1: yeah.
Speaker 2: What do you think about this?
Speaker 1: Oh, that sounds great.
Speaker 2: Okay, let me just see it correctly.
Speaker 2: I will just fix my mic as well.
Speaker 2: Can you hear me well?
Speaker 1: Yeah, loud and clear.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
Speaker 2: Let me just...
Speaker 2: I don't want to have any problems there.
Speaker 2: And then we can start.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's start then.
Speaker 1: Okay, sounds good.
Speaker 2: I'm ready.
Speaker 2: Fantastic.
Speaker 1: Hello.
Speaker 2: Hello!
Speaker 2: Hello, how are you?
Speaker 1: I'm well, how are you?
Speaker 2: I'm fine.
Speaker 2: I was a bit busy today, but it's okay.
Speaker 2: I'm used to that, but I still feel energetic and motivated.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's good.
Speaker 2: What about you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: Oh, just hanging in there.
Speaker 1: You know, I, I am envious of your
Speaker 1: energy.
Speaker 1: I'll get there one day, you know.
Speaker 2: Well, I just try to stay positive, even if I am very tired or something.
Speaker 2: And that gives me a lot of energy, you know.
Speaker 1: That's a good attitude.
Speaker 1: And it actually reminds me of something
Speaker 1: because, like, one of the things that always used to happen in
Speaker 1: school is, because you know, I like thinking about, you know,
Speaker 1: staying positive.
Speaker 1: And a lot of the times that does help your
Speaker 1: outcomes.
Speaker 1: One, although there was one time where that just
Speaker 1: absolutely didn't help.
Speaker 1: Because for reasons I'll never
Speaker 1: understand people always had the impression that the vastly
Speaker 1: false impression that I am I'm good at math.
Speaker 1: I'm very much not.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I mean, what even is math?
Speaker 1: And it's one of
Speaker 1: those things where it's like, well, I appreciate the
Speaker 1: sentiment and, but it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No amount of positive
Speaker 1: thinking is going to make me understand calculus, you know.
Speaker 2: Well, one of the funniest assumptions generally people make about me particularly is that I seem calm and organized and serious in certain situations.
Speaker 2: And I must always have like everything figured out.
Speaker 2: Honestly, absolutely not.
Speaker 2: I think like many people create quick impressions based on like appearance or like the way they look at me.
Speaker 2: But sometimes when you have a conversation with someone, it's not like a conversation with someone else or profession or first conversations.
Speaker 2: Sometimes those assumptions are completely wrong.
Speaker 2: For example, if someone looks like confident, people assume they never feel nervous or stressed out.
Speaker 2: But you know, confidence and having your life perfectly together are not the same thing.
Speaker 2: I would say.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, some people do kind of
Speaker 1: have this calm and cool collective or collected sort of
Speaker 1: I think, I don't know, I would argue that in probably 99% of the cases that's just
Speaker 1: the front.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's good to be able to put on this sort of professional face and whatnot, but
Speaker 1: I also think on some level everybody's just kind of winging it, you know?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So another funny assumption people make is that if someone stops English, speaks English well or teaches or works in education, they must be extremely formal all the time and mostly teachers.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But like really, I think it's important to be very polite.
Speaker 2: Real life does not work like that.
Speaker 2: Like teachers and professionals are normal people too.
Speaker 2: So they joke, procrastinate or forget things or make mistakes and sometimes survive mostly because of coffee or like just determination.
Speaker 2: That kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I, gosh, it was such a, it was so jarring.
Speaker 1: Like, kind of, you know, being a kid and seeing teachers and stuff and it sounds like, you
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: sort of feel like, you know, they have all the answers or these sources of sage advice
Speaker 1: and a lot of the times they are.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then you get to an adult and it's like, oh, maybe not.
Speaker 1: Just not because of anything against the teachers, just because you realize like, how little
Speaker 1: you understand about things sometimes and still get by.
Speaker 1: That's what my experience was anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: And I've also noticed like people often assume like personality traits incorrectly.
Speaker 2: For instance, quiet people are accustomed to be shy.
Speaker 2: Talkative people are assumed to assume to be shy or talkative people are assumed to be confident.
Speaker 2: Or like friendly people are assumed to be extroverts.
Speaker 2: But personality is usually much more complex than that.
Speaker 2: Do you think like that?
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 1: I do agree with that.
Speaker 1: I could, and largely it was, it was when I heard, oh gosh, I can't remember now, but
Speaker 1: I remember hearing the formal definition of kind of introversion versus extroversion.
Speaker 1: And it's not about like, you know, not wanting to be around people.
Speaker 1: I guess it's about, you know, if being around people makes you feel energized or if it makes
Speaker 1: you feel drained.
Speaker 1: So like, you know, you could be introverted and, but that doesn't mean you don't want
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: to be around people.
Speaker 1: And I think those are, those are especially two traits that really get kind of misconstrued
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 1: a lot of the times, just in everyday speech.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: And I, I must confess, I, I have been guilty of this.
Speaker 1: I, I remember in school, I, there was, gosh, it was, it was a, it was a senior student
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: that it was, you know, he was doing his senior design project and whatnot.
Speaker 1: And I was working in the lab as a, I don't know, graduate student.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: And I was looking over him like, man, who's this guy?
Speaker 1: This guy thinks he's one of the boys.
Speaker 1: Cause you know, he was a new face and yeah, yeah, he was.
Speaker 1: He was super cool.
Speaker 1: I, I don't even know what was so territorial about it, but that's one of those times where
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: like I'm apprehensive about somebody new and I'm sort of assuming that they're encroaching
Speaker 1: on, you know, just like our space, cause it was a pretty small lab and yeah, that's, I
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: did a little bit of learning that day and we're good friends now.
Speaker 1: I'm glad for that too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think like assumptions generally happen because our brains like short cuts, you know, and we like naturally categorize people based on age, profession or accent or behavior.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But who knows like who knows exactly?
Speaker 2: Humans are complicated in general.
Speaker 2: Mm.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I think for me, it's like, you know, I, I see somebody doing something and I think
Speaker 2: Mm.
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Speaker 1: back to like, well, um, oh, I don't know what an example would be like somebody's, um, eating
Speaker 1: a salad, right?
Speaker 1: And then I might say, well, I had a salad because, because my doctor said, I need to
Speaker 1: watch my a one C or something.
Speaker 1: So it's like, well, no, maybe they just like salad, not necessarily, um, dealing with some
Speaker 1: health implications.
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of the times it's like, we take somebody else's experience and then
Speaker 1: we try to put it in our own frame of reference or our own experience.
Speaker 1: And I think that's where some of those stories or some of these assumptions come from.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 2: Mm.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Mm.
Speaker 2: Mm.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: And I, um, this was the, this was the words of one of my coworkers, right?
Speaker 2: Mm.
Speaker 1: Cause we were talking about a similar thing and it's like, look guys, it's not
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: cause I don't need help.
Speaker 1: I'm just so used to you guys not giving it to me.
Speaker 1: And this was sort of in a technical, technical aspect because it was friendly
Speaker 1: banter cause, um, you know, he was the computer expert and none, nobody else of us knew
Speaker 1: any, any programming.
Speaker 1: So it's like, yeah, it's not that I don't need help.
Speaker 1: I just know you guys can't give it to me, you know?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh, I've, yeah, I've definitely seen that.
Speaker 1: And I think, I guess when it comes down to, I think it's certainly gotten better,
Speaker 1: or at least in the past, you know, 15 or 20 years, um, like there's, we seem to
Speaker 1: draw less of a correlation than we might've, um, you know, in, you know, 50 or
Speaker 1: a hundred years ago, because now we sort of have this understanding that, well,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of paths to wisdom and none of them really relate to physical
Speaker 1: attributes, not necessarily anyway.
Speaker 1: And, um, so yeah, I think it definitely is.
Speaker 1: And a lot of it falls into this sort of, um, I don't know, just sort of a bias
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: that's kind of inbuilt, but I think, um, uh, you know, on the other side, I think
Speaker 1: we have sort of gotten better at that, like, kind of culturally just separating
Speaker 1: physical attributes from, you know, other more personal kind of, um, um,
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: intangible things about us.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think social media is especially kind of pernicious because like, you know,
Speaker 1: that's a place where you're going to put your, your best self forward.
Speaker 2: Mm.
Speaker 1: And, um, it, a lot of the times it ends up hiding like, you know,
Speaker 1: troubles or difficulties, and it makes it difficult to ask for help if you've
Speaker 1: put on this facade of a perfect life.
Speaker 2: Mm.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Mm.
Speaker 2: Mm.
Speaker 2: Mm.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, unfortunately, I think that does come down to, you know,
Speaker 1: just, um, things happening online, just because a lot of the times it's like,
Speaker 1: well, I think this thing, and so does this other group of people that I
Speaker 1: interact with, so it must be true.
Speaker 1: Um, and I don't know, I, I do agree that that's dangerous.
Speaker 1: So, although I don't know how my view is any different, like, for example, like
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: I get sick, right.
Speaker 1: And I go to the doctor and it's like, well, I believe this and my doctor believes it
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: and their colleagues believe this.
Speaker 1: So it must probably be true.
Speaker 1: And I guess we could say it's evidence-based, but a lot of the times,
Speaker 1: you know, we don't, I don't have, I don't have the money or the time to go get a
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: medical degree and, uh, confirm it.
Speaker 1: So we do just have to make these assumptions based on expert opinions, I guess.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: So, uh, do you believe in stereotypes?
Speaker 1: I believe they exist.
Speaker 1: Uh, I believe we shouldn't rely on them.
Speaker 2: Mm.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I think, you know, it's important.
Speaker 1: Like if you see somebody, if you see somebody walking towards you and they're
Speaker 1: holding like a baseball bat or something, you'd be reasonable to say, well, I'm a
Speaker 2: Mm.
Speaker 1: little bit afraid of what they might want to do.
Speaker 2: Mm.
Speaker 1: I think sometimes it is a useful survival instinct, but on the general day to day,
Speaker 1: I don't think they're reliable.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And have you ever, like, assumed something wrong about someone?
Speaker 2: Mm.
Speaker 1: Um, yeah, unfortunately I have to confess that I have, um, just like a lot of the
Speaker 1: coworkers, right?
Speaker 1: I, I try to be careful just cause it's a professional setting and, um, I want to
Speaker 1: stay on everybody's good side, but everybody ends up being a whole lot more nicer
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: and sort of, um, relaxed and I attribute them to be, I go into it usually thinking
Speaker 1: that it's, you know, it's kind of cutthroat and they're, they're trying to get my
Speaker 1: position or whatever, although I don't know why they would want my position.
Speaker 1: That would be a downgrade for most of them, but, um, you know, just that sort of
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: thing.
Speaker 1: So people on the average tend to be a lot nicer and cordial than I give them credit
Speaker 1: for, I have to confess.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I understand that.
Speaker 2: Mm.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: We're, we're complicated creatures and I think that makes things all the more
Speaker 1: interesting, but it's been a wonderful time.
Speaker 2: Mm.
Speaker 1: You know, I appreciate your point of view and I hope you have a wonderful evening.",What's the funniest thing someone has ever assumed about you?,970,2,male / female,25-34 / 35-44,100%
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Speaker 1: I'm well.
Speaker 1: I hope you're well too.
Speaker 2: Oh, can you hear me well?
Speaker 1: Yeah, loud and clear.
Speaker 1: What about me?
Speaker 2: Oh, I can hear you as well as well.
Speaker 2: Now, if you can hear me clearly, shall we try one of the topics?
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 2: Okay, like what's something you've accidentally ruined by overthinking it?
Speaker 2: Shall we do that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds great.
Speaker 1: I could do that.
Speaker 1: So I guess we'll do greetings and then I could get us started off if that's all right.
Speaker 2: You can start, you mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: No problem, no problem.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Good luck then.
Speaker 1: Hey, how are you?
Speaker 2: I'm fine, what about you?
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm good.
Speaker 1: Gosh, you know, I was just reminiscing a little bit today about, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 1: I was tempted to say the glory days, but I, you know, naturally I found a way to make the good times and turn them into less good times.
Speaker 2: Oh, really?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I used to, what was it, you know, when I was in school, I used to, like, kind of be way into music, I used to play the piano and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But, and that was all well and good until, you know, they're like, yeah, well, we need somebody for this upcoming performance.
Speaker 1: And it's like, that was something that just completely, you know, drained any joy out of it for me because I kept on up until the performance.
Speaker 1: It's sort of just, you know, my mind was just fixating on, you know, not doing well, you know.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, honestly, I think many people have like, accidentally ruined things by overthinking, right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it happens a lot.
Speaker 2: And I'm not definitely an exception as well.
Speaker 2: I can share my own story as well, if you don't mind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd love to hear.
Speaker 2: One thing I've roughly ruined at point is an opportunity or a decision, because I spend actually too much time analyzing every possible outcome.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes overthinking like starts with good intentions, and you want to make the right choice, avoid mistakes and be responsible.
Speaker 2: So after a certain point, like thinking stops being helpful and becomes stressful somehow, right?
Speaker 2: For example, imagine like preparing for an interview or a presentation.
Speaker 2: My case is always like that.
Speaker 2: I'm in the habit of overthinking in this case, or even an important conversation.
Speaker 2: Instead of simply doing my best, I just start replaying scenarios in my head.
Speaker 2: Oh my God, what if I say the wrong thing?
Speaker 2: What if they misunderstood me?
Speaker 2: Or what if I fail and suddenly like confidence disappears?
Speaker 2: And, you know, like, I think overthinking can turn simple situations into complicated ones.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And it's, you know, and it's like, it's one of those things where it's like born of good intentions, you know, because you want to, like you said, you know, you want to make sure that you, you know, do right by the people around you and, and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: And, you know, I think for me, for me what it comes from, I think, is that, you know, sometimes like we are our own worst critics, you know, like, you know, everybody else tends to be a lot nicer than, you know, we are when we're judging our own work or anything like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: And sometimes, sometimes that's useful.
Speaker 1: But a lot of the times I think it just, you know, it just results in unnecessary stress.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I see.
Speaker 2: Well, another example is communication itself, because sometimes people overanalyze text messages and facial expressions and conversations.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, you just start asking yourself, oh, what did they say?
Speaker 2: Why did they say it like that?
Speaker 2: Or do they mean something else?
Speaker 2: Or did I sound strange?
Speaker 2: And before you know it, a normal interaction becomes a mental puzzle.
Speaker 2: And that's so tiring, you know, that's so tiring.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that also like ruins enjoyment as well.
Speaker 2: For example, while traveling, I always overthink, oh my God, which place should I choose first?
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 2: How?
Speaker 2: And that kind of questions and those questions, even those questions are very disturbing.
Speaker 2: But you know, you can realize that after overthinking, not in the process of overthinking.
Speaker 2: Again, well, if we don't complicate things, that would be much life would be much easier.
Speaker 2: Don't you think like that?
Speaker 1: I do, because I'm thinking like, a lot of the times it'll be a weekend or something.
Speaker 1: And it's like, all right, I only have a limited number of these.
Speaker 1: So I want to make sure I spend it correctly.
Speaker 1: And I spend so much time, you know, languishing over that, that I just, I just end up not enjoying anything, you know, it's, it's a sort of like goal of optimization that makes sure you don't do anything optimally.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Have you ever been on vacation but unable to relax because you're like thinking about work, future plans or deadlines or responsibilities?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like in this case, like physically you are present, but mentally you are somewhere else.
Speaker 2: That's one of the worst effects of overthinking, I would say.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think everybody just wants to check out for a while, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But personally, you realize that perfectionism and overthinking are often connected.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And when people want everything to be perfect, they may hesitate and postpone like decisions or create unnecessary pressure.
Speaker 2: Also, ironically, like trying too hard to avoid mistakes can sometimes create more mistakes.
Speaker 2: Like we can say humans can learn from mistakes, but I think overthinking is not necessary for learning, right?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree.
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of it comes down to, like, you need to have a, I don't know, I've heard it referred to as like a, I heard it called a flexible moral framework, or something like that.
Speaker 1: But basically, like, you know, a lot of the times we're overthinking because, you know, we want to be like a good person.
Speaker 1: But, you know, there's no kind of singular canned way to do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So a lot of the times, like, you just got to do your best and accept that.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you're not going to do, you know, sometimes it's not going to work, but that's okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh my God, you are somehow paused, you know, while overthinking and well, do you think it is easily manageable to avoid overthinking and it's up to us somehow?
Speaker 1: I think it depends.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think a lot of the times, what I heard was that, like, I don't know if this is true or not, but if you're like, sort of in this, you know, mode where you're trying to survive, like, your brain physiologically changes, like the, I'm not a doctor, but I heard this from one, and it's like the size of your amygdala changes.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I think that's where a lot of overthinking comes from, because you're sort of constantly afraid you're going to make a mistake or you're afraid of some threat.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And that's why you, you know, almost compulsively focus on not making a mistake.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 2: And also there might be also gender difference in terms of towards overthinking, you know,
Speaker 2: According to stereotypical approach, like females tend to overthink more rather than men.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know how true it can be.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's not about gender.
Speaker 2: It's about a human particularly.
Speaker 2: But I always just consider that as a stereotypical approach.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I never liked that when just women were accused, when others just like consider that women where women tend to overthink only women.
Speaker 2: So I think males also tend to overthink, right?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely agree.
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, certainly, I think the stereotype is short-sighted.
Speaker 1: There are some things that I've definitely noticed, like me and my men friends, like, you know, we'll be the ones that will be the fastest to disregard safety regulations, you know, like, if we're, if we're, I don't know, it's like, we'll be using the blender and it's like, well, I can't find the lid, but I have a plate, you know, so, and that's anecdotal.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And, you know, I've just noticed that, like, with my friends, a lot of the times we tend to be more impulsive, but there's a bit of a sampling bias there too, you know, anybody can be as thoughtful or thoughtless as I think the circumstance compels them to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't think it is overthinking.
Speaker 2: It's a quite natural phenomenon, not to avoid mistakes if you can.
Speaker 2: But I don't know like how it may work in particular cases.
Speaker 2: Over time, I've learned that sometimes action is better than like endless analysis and not every decision needs perfect certainty, you know?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of it is like, you know, because whatever evolutionary forces right, you know, when we were kind of just like cave people or whatever you want to call it like the focus was we'll survive the next five minutes or 10 minutes and, you know, you're worried about your immediate physical survival.
Speaker 1: But if you get into like nowadays, right, you're planning 510 minutes out and, excuse me, 510 years out and like, it becomes a lot more difficult to make that decision.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've definitely I've definitely had, you know, guy friends on both sides, you know, some are, I don't know, I don't want to say oblivious because I don't want to insult them but that maybe they are.
Speaker 1: And also some that tend to go down these rabbit holes where it seems almost like they're eager to find something wrong and it's not out of malice is just because something in their upbringing or something in their personality makes them sort of deathly afraid of failure.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And do you think overthinking is connected to perfectionism somehow?
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: I think that's.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I think so because you know you could.
Speaker 1: I've I thought I fall into the trap a lot of like well I can't do this thing perfectly or somebody else can do it better.
Speaker 1: So let's not start at all you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: And why do intelligent people sometimes overthink more?
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 1: Firstly, I'd like to point out I may overthink but I'm not intelligent.
Speaker 2: I guess you seem to be intelligent.
Speaker 2: Why not?
Speaker 2: While speaking, you're quite intelligent.
Speaker 1: Oh, I just mean I don't know everybody's got like a specialty I know some things but I don't know a lot of things but I think it's just specifically with that like I think one aspect of intelligence is sort of this ability to have this abstract thinking and I think, you know, if you're somebody we conventionally consider to be intelligent you you're sort of anticipating lucky well if I do this, what's going to happen next.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: And why actually, what strategies help reduce overthinking in your opinion?
Speaker 1: I think it depends on the severity I mean firstly, I think having a good social circle right I think if you're in that sort of survival mode, it's difficult to break out of it but if you have friends or or people around you that are encouraging that's good and it also gets to a point where some people do seek, you know, medicine or help from doctors about things like this because it can become depilitating and it can be difficult to break out of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Depending on how bad it gets.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see.
Speaker 2: Yeah.",What's something you've accidentally ruined by overthinking it?,877,2,male / female,25-34 / 35-44,100%
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Speaker 2: Shall we start?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah really well and you no problem right?
Speaker 2: No
Speaker 2: extra noise or something.
Speaker 1: No, no, no.
Speaker 1: What about me?
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Speaker 2: Everything is fine.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about what's the accidental photo
Speaker 2: you've ever taken.
Speaker 2: Shall we?
Speaker 1: Can you think of?
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure.
Speaker 1: Can you think of something?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I can start.
Speaker 2: No problem.
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Speaker 2: Good luck.
Speaker 2: Oh hello.
Speaker 2: Hello?
Speaker 1: Hi, how are you doing?
Speaker 2: I'm fine.
Speaker 2: What about you?
Speaker 1: I'm doing well.
Speaker 1: I'm doing well.
Speaker 1: I hope you didn't have a busy day or did you?
Speaker 2: Oh well, I had a bit busy day but it's okay
Speaker 2: I'm used to that.
Speaker 2: See despite this
Speaker 2: I feel energetic and motivated
Speaker 1: Awesome.
Speaker 2: so I was walking home and thinking
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: and I was thinking about
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: making a new album tomorrow
Speaker 1: Oh, uh huh.
Speaker 2: because there are just years
Speaker 2: that I have not printed out photos
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: and in my gallery I actually found out
Speaker 2: came across one of the accidental photos
Speaker 2: I've taken and I did not expect that and
Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
Speaker 2: I can tell you about this.
Speaker 1: Of course.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd love to hear the story.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: Well honestly one of the best accidental photos
Speaker 2: I've ever taken happened when I was not even trying to
Speaker 2: create a good picture.
Speaker 2: I was just casually using my phone and
Speaker 2: suddenly I noticed that lighting
Speaker 2: background and timing all came together perfectly
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: but it was not planned at all.
Speaker 2: Well you know
Speaker 2: one accidental photo particularly that was about
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: during sunset I was trying to photograph the sky
Speaker 2: I was actually taking a completely different picture but later I noticed
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: beautiful colors in the background like orange, pink and soft purple tones
Speaker 2: and the photo looked like much more artistic than I expected
Speaker 2: Yeah I do love like sunset, sunrise and the kind of
Speaker 2: like beautiful pictures you know not only pictures but reality
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: And I would say another reason accidental photos can be memorable is timing right?
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: Of course, of course.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you capture someone laughing naturally
Speaker 1: Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: or like a funny facial expression an animal doing something unexpected right?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Or random everyday moment that actually becomes surprisingly beautiful
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah
Speaker 1: You know, this reminds me, you know, these old, the old cameras with the films, right?
Speaker 2: Yeah black and white pictures and stuff
Speaker 1: Yeah, even the colored one, but you had to have a film in it, right?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah I do
Speaker 1: Do you remember that?
Speaker 1: So we used to have this like Canon one.
Speaker 1: My sister had it.
Speaker 1: And this reminds me of, you know, how you cannot expose the like the film to the sun, right?
Speaker 2: Uh huh
Speaker 2: Oh my god that's great
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Like long time ago, like the sun, you can, there was a door, you open it, you put the film in and you cannot open it in the sun.
Speaker 1: Otherwise, the pictures will be ruined, basically.
Speaker 2: Yeah
Speaker 1: So the door to the camera, like, got damaged without us realizing.
Speaker 1: And a bit of sunlight came in and she was, yeah, and they turned out to be one of the best, like, photos ever, you know, there was a burst of sunlight in every photo.
Speaker 2: Yeah
Speaker 2: Oh wow
Speaker 2: Wow
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks so awesome.
Speaker 1: So what you said totally reminds me of this, you know?
Speaker 2: Oh fantastic
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't really happen anymore because of like digital cameras and phones and things like that.
Speaker 1: But they were really unique pictures.
Speaker 2: Yeah I can imagine and nowadays people generally take thousands of photos but not
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: every picture has emotional value sometimes the imperfect unplanned photos become our favorite
Speaker 2: because they feel real you know
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, totally.
Speaker 2: And I also think accidental photos can take stories tell stories I mean
Speaker 1: I totally get that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: you look at them years later and remember details you completely forgot like where you were
Speaker 2: how you felt or what people said like what was happening around you right that's fantastic I would say
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It is, you know, we used to, my dad bought for each of, I have two brothers and one sister.
Speaker 1: I was really young back then, like I was a baby or a toddler, I guess.
Speaker 2: Oh
Speaker 1: But he bought for each of them a camera, right?
Speaker 1: And they used to, I was their favorite photograph, like subject, photography subject.
Speaker 2: Yeah
Speaker 1: They used to put me in drawers and take pictures or like put me in.
Speaker 2: Yeah
Speaker 2: Oh fantastic
Speaker 1: So it was really cool to look back at these pictures, you know, at a time where I don't remember and some of it I do remember.
Speaker 2: Yeah
Speaker 1: And also my mom and dad met at the university, right?
Speaker 1: So they used to take a lot of pictures and I got to see my mom, you know, when she was really young and like my age.
Speaker 2: Oh my god that's great
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you have any like albums like that?
Speaker 2: Oh yes of course my mom actually also loves uh loves albums and I actually do have my parents
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: wedding pictures and that kind of things and oh my god when I was a child I just saw my mom's
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: wedding dress and I just tried to wear that as well but that was quite long you know and I just
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: looked hilarious my mom actually took accidental photo of it and I still have this photo me
Speaker 2: wearing my mom's wedding dress in my childhood and like I have makeup and that's quite funny you know
Speaker 1: Oh my God.
Speaker 2: Yeah
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure it's a precious memory.
Speaker 2: That is that is and I would also say that like social media often encourages perfect images
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: mostly Instagram perfect angles perfect editing perfect aesthetics but generally sometimes like
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: photos and messy background and spontaneous shots carry stronger memories than professional looking pictures
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I totally agree.
Speaker 2: Yeah do phones help us preserve memories or distract us from experiences what do you think?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree.
Speaker 1: You know, my favorite like time to take like pictures is sometimes I wake up and I'm all messy but I'm documenting this horrible day, or sometimes I'm really fancy and I may have just had my hair done and I'm wearing makeup.
Speaker 2: Yeah
Speaker 2: Yeah
Speaker 1: And I'd like to take a picture for the memory and I might do that and it's really easy now right nowadays with phones and everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah and also if I had to choose like what makes an accidental
Speaker 2: uh photo special I'd say it's emotion timing and authenticity you know
Speaker 1: Of course, of course.
Speaker 2: And I don't control everything and maybe that's exactly why it works
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well honestly I would say that life itself is a little like accidental photography
Speaker 2: and some uh yeah and some of the best moments happen when we're not even planning them
Speaker 1: That's so true.
Speaker 2: When you know something that comes to my mind like from a professional angle you know like
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: photojournalists they are like heroes you know because like they accidentally take sometimes
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2: even live pictures or historical pictures and they have a huge responsibility because
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: they had to like show something fundamental to the other generation as well so
Speaker 1: Of course.
Speaker 2: I would say that that that means a lot in this case right what do you think about this?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree.
Speaker 1: You know, this reminds me of a case.
Speaker 1: It's actually a pretty sad case.
Speaker 1: I believe it.
Speaker 1: There was a photographer I can't remember if he was with National Geographic or, or like New York Times.
Speaker 1: I honestly can't remember which magazine, which magazine he was photographing for.
Speaker 2: Exactly
Speaker 1: But he was, I believe in Africa or Somalia.
Speaker 2: Oh my god
Speaker 1: At the, yeah, at the time of, of the famine, right, it's, it's over now I guess.
Speaker 1: But back then, he took a picture of a child that was dying and a vulture or a bird that was waiting for him to die to eat him.
Speaker 2: Uh-huh
Speaker 2: Oh my god
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was attacked viciously for, for like taking the picture.
Speaker 1: Why didn't you save this child's life?
Speaker 2: Oh my god
Speaker 1: Now the thing is, yeah, the thing is about severe famine is that he couldn't possibly have the resources to save his life because he cannot simply feed him a piece of bread and he will be all right.
Speaker 2: Yeah
Speaker 1: He cannot feed him, period.
Speaker 1: He need like IVs and hospital care.
Speaker 1: And that wasn't possible at that time.
Speaker 1: I believe the photographer ended up taking his own life.
Speaker 2: Okay
Speaker 2: Okay oh my god
Speaker 1: After, after that.
Speaker 2: Right
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, you know, you know, sometimes, like, there is this idea like a picture can mean a thousand words right.
Speaker 1: And sometimes that's absolutely true.
Speaker 1: Like, and when you end up seeing something so horrific, and he couldn't, I guess he couldn't live with himself with the fact of what he saw and he couldn't help or do anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah
Speaker 2: Yeah
Speaker 1: So yeah, that, that reminded me of that.
Speaker 2: Oh yes that that was a huge responsibility out of this oh my god this case was so responsible
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: This journalist was so responsible for like the whole generation I would say
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh well what do you think like what role does photography play in modern life?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean
Speaker 2: just ordinary photography do you think uh the function is still the same fixing the
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: best uh photos into memory or like it also might have any other um function too
Speaker 1: I think now, part of it is still memory.
Speaker 2: Yeah
Speaker 1: But at the same time, people are looking for like perfectionism so much and the Instagram worthy photo and blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 2: Yeah
Speaker 2: Exactly
Speaker 1: And, you know, I see people at concerts, like, taking photographs and videos and all I think like, yeah, take a photo or two, but you're there to see the artist, not through a lens, but with your own eye.
Speaker 2: Yeah
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah
Speaker 2: Exactly
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 1: So, so sometimes I'm all for recording events right like birthdays and, and like you know, especially especially for us to remember it, like in the future, and special days but sometimes you have to enjoy the moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah
Speaker 2: Yeah
Speaker 2: Exactly I totally I totally agree with you uh well it also depends on a person you know some
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 1: What do you think.
Speaker 2: people generally enjoy uploading a lot of photos on Instagram particularly and one photo in different
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: backgrounds and filters oh my god sometimes it seems so boring right like whenever just you look
Speaker 2: at somebody in black and white in colors in in yellowish color in greenish and it never ends
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: oh my god I think it it also has its limits you know but generally generally I do appreciate
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: uh good photographers you know good photographers in life and good photographers in nature
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: you know good photographers are like great writers because um yeah those albums create a history in
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's so true.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: the end and family history friendship history love history love story and uh well why not if you're
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: a romantic person for example and if you document every single every single memory of your how it
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: started and how it all continued and how it all finished that is exactly your own history
Speaker 2: in the world and well that that is great so why not we are humans we need a lot of memories and
Speaker 1: Of course.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: when we get older I think whenever we look back those photos will become more and more
Speaker 2: meaningful for us right
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course I completely agree.
Speaker 1: This has brought back memories, and it was really nice catching up with you and
Speaker 2: yeah exactly
Speaker 2: yeah that was so nice talking to you talking with you have a great evening
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 1: You too.
Speaker 1: Bye bye.",What's the best accidental photo you've ever taken?,1008,2,female / female,25-34 / 35-44,100%